Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was interviewed by Zona Bianca on Rete 4: he spoke of nuclear war, arguing that Moscow has always worked to avoid it, accused the West of fighting on the ground in Ukraine without offering evidence, kept the line hard on paying gas in rubles and likened Zelensky to Hitler
On the evening of Sunday 1 May, Sergei Lavrovforeign minister of Russia, was interviewed during the White Zone program, on Rete 4. Lavrov spoke words of accusation against Italy – in the front row against Russia: we were surprised, we are no longer – and of the West – who would fight on the ground in Ukraine: a sentence in support of which Lavrov did not bring evidence.
The Moscow foreign minister also argued that Russia has always worked to minimize the risk of nuclear war (But the risk cannot be underestimated, he added, forgetting that only on the Russian channels, and not on the Western ones, simulations of the devastation that nuclear weapons could create in European capitals run regularly) and that the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky both bearer of anti-Semitic and Nazi ideas, although Jewish: But that means nothing, even Hitler, Lavrov said, was of Jewish origin.
He also argued that Russia developed i hypersonic missiles to respond to a possible Western attack (forgetting that Moscow was the first country in the world to use them in a conflict, and that Ukraine does not have any hypersonic missiles), that Zelensky should cease hostilities, and answered curtly to the question about Putin’s state of health: This you must ask the leaders who met him.
Here are some of Lavrov’s main statements.
– We don’t want to overthrow Zelensky. We are not aiming for regime change in Kiev, this is an American specialty. We don’t even ask that you give up. What we are calling for is to stop the hostilities and let the civilians go. We want to ensure that no more threats to Russia come from Ukraine. (That Moscow’s master plan for taking Kiev is demonstrated by the progress of military operations on the ground; only Ukrainian resistance prevented regime change from being carried out. It is not clear what Lavrov means when he talks about letting go. civilians).
– Russia has never stopped efforts to come to an agreement that avoids a nuclear war, a Third World War. It is the Western media that have misrepresented our messages and have misrepresented our goals in this operation. Russia has developed ultrasonic weapons to defend itself against a possible attack from the West. We were ready to talk to the US for a new agreement on strategic stability, but the American side has stopped the negotiations. (Russia was the first country to use ultrasonic weapons in a conflict).
– Zelensky is constantly changing his positions, the Ukrainians have sabotaged the negotiations. The Ukrainian government has become an instrument of the Nazi extremists and the US government. (The positions of Zelensky and those of Putin have been carried forward in negotiations whose progress now seems to be particularly difficult, especially after what happened in Bucha and Kramatorsk, with the launch of missiles at civilians fleeing the conflict zone).
– The fact that Zelensky is Jewish does not imply that there are Nazi elements in Ukraine, and that the president has allowed them. The worst anti-Semites are Jews, even Hitler was of Jewish origin. (The comparison between Zelensky, who is of Jewish faith, and Hitler, who exterminated millions of Jews, absolutely unheard of even for Russian diplomacy, which in recent weeks has also been transformed into an instrument of internal government).
– Russia does not aim to hasten the completion of the special operation in Ukraine by 9 May, Victory Day against Nazism. Our military will not artificially adjust their actions to any date. The pace of the operation in Ukraine depends, in the first place, on the need to minimize the risks to the civilian population and Russian military personnel. (Moscow repeats, in its diplomatic declarations, that the target of its attacks are the Ukrainian military infrastructures – phrases that are hardly compatible with the images coming from the conflict zones, first of all from Mariupol, a city practically razed to the ground).
– The Wagner group of mercenaries, whose elements are in Ukraine on behalf of the Russian government, private and has nothing to do with the Russian state. There are many Western military representatives and mercenaries fighting in Ukraine. Lavrov brought no evidence to support these claims.
– Italy at the forefront of initiatives against Russia. For us it was a surprise. We were used to the idea that Italy, thanks to her story, knew how to distinguish white from black. There have been Italian politicians and media who have gone beyond good diplomatic and journalistic standards, the embassy has broadcast the material and proceedings have been opened for violation of the law by the Italian media. But I have a wonderful relationship with the Italian people, not this in question.
– The truth is only one: on March 30, the military left Bucha, the mayor declared victory and that the city had returned to normal life. Then after three days they began to show these dead. I don’t want to go into it, but it is so obvious that it is a fake. As to what happened in Bucha, in addition to the countless journalistic evidence showing the falsity of what Lavrov said, international investigations are underway.
– Zelensky can promote peace: it would be enough for him to stop giving criminal orders to his Nazi troops. We only want to ensure the safety of pro-Russian Ukrainians in the east of the country.
– According to the scheme devised by the Kremlin, nothing changes for gas importers. We will consider it paid only after the currency has been converted into rubles. (The European Union has declared inadmissible the obligation to pay for gas in rubles – and in particular the very mechanism that would consider the payment completed only when the sum paid in euros is converted into rubles).
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